Eternal-september problems

[HenHanna]

If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're not the
only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption that leads
to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just have to
hope that it settles down soon.

It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the reason
why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
(news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have eternal-september as
a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]

I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they require a
German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for that for
them. They accept payment using Paypal, I’m not sure what they do in that event
to confirm a German domicile.

really? i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S (and TB).

[guido wugi]

  > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
not the
  > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption
that leads
  > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
have to
  > > hope that it settles down soon.
  > >
  >
  > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the
reason
  > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
  > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have
eternal-september as
  > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]
I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they require a
German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for that for
them. They accept payment using Paypal, I’m not sure what they do in that event
to confirm a German domicile.

really?   i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S  (and TB).

My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent
messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time,
three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

[Boris]

Post by guido wugi

  > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
not the
  > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption
that leads
  > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
have to
  > > hope that it settles down soon.
  > >
  >
  > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the
reason
  > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
  > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have
eternal-september as
  > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]
I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they require a
German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for that for
them. They accept payment using Paypal, I’m not sure what they do in
that event
to confirm a German domicile.

really?   i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S  (and TB).

My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent
messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time,
three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June
29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use
Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
articles comes back.

Wonder if this will be fixed.

[Sn!pe]

Boris <***@invalid.com> wrote:

[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent
messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time,
three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June
29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use
Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

[Boris]

Post by Sn!pe
[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
older articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Boris

Post by Sn!pe
[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
older articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.
Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^

[Silvano]

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Boris

Post by Sn!pe
[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
older articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.
Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^

Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
problems and closures will not bother you anymore.

And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have
messages from 2014 here.

P.S. I don't read NSR, but this discussion is more relevant to that NG.
So I don't set a follow-up, because I'd like to read the continuation.

[Jeff Layman]

Post by Silvano

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Boris

Post by Sn!pe
[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
older articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.
Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^

Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
problems and closures will not bother you anymore.

Or a router which has decided to play up just when you need it!

Post by Silvano
And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have
messages from 2014 here.

+1

[candycanearter07]

Post by Silvano

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Boris

Post by Sn!pe
[...]

Post by Boris

Post by guido wugi
My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.

Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
older articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.
Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^

Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
problems and closures will not bother you anymore.
And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have
messages from 2014 here.
P.S. I don't read NSR, but this discussion is more relevant to that NG.
So I don't set a follow-up, because I'd like to read the continuation.

Right, I use slrn's built in "save message" option.

[Keith]

What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

[Silvano]

Post by Keith
What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

Your question is more relevant to NSR, which I don't read. I'm not
candycanearter07 and I don't know how he did it, but I know that in
Thunderbird you can use about:config to configure the FROM line as you wish.

Please don't ask me which are the right parametres. I did it many years
ago and I've long forgotten how.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Silvano

Post by Keith
What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

Your question is more relevant to NSR, which I don't read. I'm not
candycanearter07 and I don't know how he did it, but I know that in
Thunderbird you can use about:config to configure the FROM line as you wish.
Please don't ask me which are the right parametres. I did it many years
ago and I've long forgotten how.

Here's part of my config:
--~/.slrnrc--
set followup_date_format "%R this %A (%Z)"
set followup_string "%r <%f> wrote at %D:"

[Bernd Rose]

Post by Keith
What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

The slrn reply_string uses strftime(3) formatting codes:

https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.29
https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.28
https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html

Full day name of the week would therefore be displayed with %A variable.

HTH.
Bernd

[Keith]

Post by Bernd Rose

Post by Keith
What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.29
https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.28
https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html
Full day name of the week would therefore be displayed with %A variable.
HTH.
Bernd

Thank you.

[D]

Post by Boris
Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June
29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use
Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
articles comes back.
Wonder if this will be fixed.

e-s could restore their server database, but until if/when that happens?
this list is about three months old, but many of these free news servers
have good retention for a year or more (e.g. blueworld is near 20 years):

read-only test (using Tor Browser 13.5.2):
http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=paganini.bofh.team&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: paganini.bofh.team (48696)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=freenews.netfront.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: freenews.netfront.net (47473)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.samoylyk.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.samoylyk.net (45909)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.dizum.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.dizum.net (45728)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alphared.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.alphared.net (45728)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.blueworldhosting.com&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.blueworldhosting.com (45059)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.novabbs.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.novabbs.org (42485)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.i2pn2.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.i2pn2.org (42473)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.mixmin.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.mixmin.net (41841)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alt119.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.alt119.net (40530)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.usenet.ovh&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.usenet.ovh (15322)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.chmurka.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.chmurka.net (3752)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.grc.com&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.grc.com (39)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.eternal-september.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Boris
Server: news.eternal-september.org (12) *requires login, tor disabled

there are probably dozens of other free news servers, some of which
are known to work with tor and also use ssl/port 563, albeit posting
via some of these free news servers may not work with or without tor

[HenHanna]

  > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
not the
  > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption that
leads
  > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
have to
  > > hope that it settles down soon.
  > >
  >
  > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the reason
  > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
  > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have eternal-
september as
  > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]
I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they require a
German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for that for
them. They accept payment using Paypal, I’m not sure what they do in that event
to confirm a German domicile.

really?   i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S  (and TB).

i see the problem... NOW... i click on a MSG from June and it's gone.